60-year-old woman discovers her husband lost all their retirement savings and starts planning to move to her mother’s house in a different state: ‘We are at retirement age, and the floor has completely fallen out from under us’

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  • Older woman standing in a kitchen reading two documents, looking concerned.

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  • This isn’t the kind of financial chaos that happens all at once. This is the onion-y one that happens in layers, each one a little harder to see because the one before it is still being processed.

  • My husband (M60s) blew our retirement, lost our house, and is hiding the truth. I (F60) have an out—should I take it?

    My husband and I have been together for 15 years (married 10). We don't have children together, and my own children are all grown and independent.

  • Years ago, I moved to a different state to be with him. Now, we are at retirement age, and the floor has completely fallen out from under us.

  • He recently announced that we have to sell our house due to "poor financial decisions," but he refuses to be transparent about the numbers.

  •  ⚫ He left a stable job of 30 years abruptly after a workplace conflict.

  • A job left abruptly here, a trading account opened there, a 401k dipped into for reasons that made sense at the time. By the time the full picture becomes visible the house is already being sold and the person next to you is talking about a new business venture with the energy of someone who has not yet connected their current situation to their previous decisions.

  • Older woman sitting at a kitchen table reviewing a document, with coins and household items nearby.

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  • • He's only drawing partial Social . Security. He's been day trading and lost a significant amount.

  • • He took out a loan against his late mother's house (which was fully paid off) and dipped into his 401k.

  • We are currently paying for 4 luxury cars with high monthly payments. He says he wants to start a business to fix this, but I feel like I'm watching a gambler double down.

  • The for better or worse conversation is one of the oldest and most load-bearing arguments in the history of staying somewhere you probably should not. It is a genuine and meaningful commitment. It is also not a legally binding obligation to absorb someone else's undisclosed financial implosion in silence while working a part-time job at retirement age to help cover luxury car payments you never agreed to.

  •  I have the option to move back to my home state and stay with my mother temporarily.

  • I could leave the luxury cars and the hidden debt behind and try to salvage what's left of my own future.

  • The detail that does a lot of quiet work here is the secrecy. Shared financial hardship is one thing. A partner who refuses to show you the numbers while the house is being sold and the savings are gone is a different category of problem entirely. Loyalty is a reasonable value. Being kept in the dark about the scale of a crisis while it is actively happening is not a test of loyalty. It is just being kept in the dark.

  • I was raised to believe marriage is for better or worse, but is "worse" supposed to include financial ruin caused by secrecy?

  • But hey, her mother has a spare room. That’s not nothing.

  • Am I a bad wife if I choose to save myself?

  • curlyq9702 You need to find out exactly how bad this is. It sounds like he may have been fired from his job, or quit before he was fired. You need to find out what your name is tied to & get in touch with an attorney asap. Both a divorce attorney & maybe one to figure out what legal stuff he may have tied you up in.

  • throwaway06190306 Original Poster's Reply That is what I think about his job. My name is not on the mortgage but is on the cars.

  • Final_Technology 104 You gotta bail on him tout suite. And I mean RTFN! Lawyer up "quietly" and move in the shadows. No heads up to him. Go to the big three credit bureaus to see if he's got any credit cards that you don't know about (check his out) and then freeze your accounts. Day trading for God's Sakes! What an idiot. And yeah, his wanting to start a business to get out of this mess is yes, you Are watching a gambler double down. If he's not being transparent, your attorney will be able to

  • throwaway06190306 Original Poster's Reply I did not think about checking my credit thank you

  • throwaway06190306 Original Poster's Reply Showing my mom these replies. She will try to answer some. Thank you everyone for echoing a lot of what I have said. I am worried for her but I'm ready to help her take the next steps.

  • Cheeseballfondue You need to talk to a lawyer ASAP. You may be liable for many of - these debts getting out is a great idea, but you need more information to minimize the damage. Marriage is supposed to be a partnership. He did not approach it that way, and now you're the victim of his bad decisions. You need to figure out whether you can live with that level of weakness and secrecy, since there's certainly no guarantee he will turn over a new leaf.

  • 042614 It's not the debt that broke the marriage, it's the lies and secrecy. Put your own oxygen mask on first, sis. Run while you still can.

  • kiitkatpattywack My god. I don't know but she needs a lawyer asap.

  • AliceInReverse File for divorce immediately before you are tied to any further debt

  • PeaceNo6149 Leave. Leave before it gets worse. Make sure your name is not tied into any of this. He's been untrustworthy and untruthful.

  • nursepenguin36 He had no problem destroying y'all's lives without discussing it with you. He did not treat you as a partner, and has basically ruined you both without ever giving you any choice in the matter. You're not obligated to tie yourself to his sinking ship.

  • Old_Confidence3290 In many states, you are equally responsible for his debts. I'm not sure that you have an out.

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